Thread: What rebel songs should be sung more at games?

Originally Posted by Minty

The problem with that is that for a lot of people, the hatred doesn't last for just 90 minutes.

Also, a lot of fans have no interest in Irish republicanism and some may feel intimidated by the singing of these songs. We're a club open to all and these types of songs may alienate certain fans. There's a time and a place to sing them and it isn't Celtic Park on a match day in my opinion.

Also I don't think that more rebel songs being sung = automatic better atmosphere.

rebel songs havent alienated fans, we've been singing them for generations and we're one of the best supported clubs in the world.

rebel songs dont automatically mean a better atmosphere but i'm glad to be singing them again, if only to vary it. how many times a game do we sing the feilds.... bores me to tears.

Originally Posted by CE

As I said, football has never been for the light hearted. If you are going to be offended then I wouldn't go. I have seen one fat men been singled out by thousands and gave abuse, thats the way it is. You need a thick skin.

Yeh obviousbly it may last more than 90 for some, but I think the majority keep it within the ground and then do it in appropriate places.

I agree with you that most of the time you need a thick skin. However I don't think that's justification for encouraging acting the goat.

The fact that it does last for more than 90 minutes for a lot of people is one of the reasons that I'm not keen to indulge in the hatred.

Originally Posted by clagan

rebel songs havent alienated fans, we've been singing them for generations and we're one of the best supported clubs in the world.

rebel songs dont automatically mean a better atmosphere but i'm glad to be singing them again, if only to vary it. how many times a game do we sing the feilds.... bores me to tears.

They alienate some if not a lot of fans.

How long have the rebel songs been sung at Celtic Park? I've read that it's only been since the 1960's?

Originally Posted by Ghod

Nah since our inception .

Puts the people alienated by Irish songs in the same boat as the people who have to endure John Reid and endure a poppy on the hoops.

How do you know for sure that rebel songs have been sung since our inception?

The poppy on the hoops happened for one match and if you have that much of a problem with it you can simply avoid the match that day. Or you can go in after the minutes silence. Singing of rebel songs has the potential to happen at every match so you can understand why it has the potential to alienate some people far more often.

Btw, would you be ok with John Reid as chairman if the UK didn't invade Iraq?

Originally Posted by Minty

How do you know for sure that rebel songs have been sung since our inception?

The poppy on the hoops happened for one match and if you have that much of a problem with it you can simply avoid the match that day. Or you can go in after the minutes silence. Singing of rebel songs has the potential to happen at every match so you can understand why it has the potential to alienate some people far more often.

Btw, would you be ok with John Reid as chairman if the UK didn't invade Iraq?

Id be willing to put my live savings on it, i have pictures of Irish volunteers at Celtic park in 1914 ffs. Half of Celtic park spoke Irish in the early years, the ground was built by the Irish. There is a statue outside our ground of a Irish roman catholic marist brother. Michael Davitt was the man who laid down the first sod of turf, Eamon De Valera was the man who gave us the tricolour on behalf of the Irish Republic. It still flies today, our club and Ireland are inextricably linked. If people don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t like it or feel alienated by it then why support us?

Id put my house on more people being alienated with the way the club is being run, and the fact that we are being told what to sing.

I dunno what planet your on if you think Celtic fans would be alienated by Irish folk songs. If there are any, then they should start of a Celtic song instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66U_UtY4MWc

I dunno what Celtic support your in or what Celtic support you have stood beside at games. But never in my life have i came across people who have a problem with Irish folk songs, it must be an internet thing.

Originally Posted by Ghod

Id be willing to put my live savings on it, i have pictures of Irish volunteers at Celtic park in 1914 ffs. Half of Celtic park spoke Irish in the early years, the ground was built by the Irish. There is a statue outside our ground of a Irish roman catholic marist brother. Michael Davitt was the man who laid down the first sod of turf, Eamon De Valera was the man who gave us the tricolour on behalf of the Irish Republic. It still flies today, our club and Ireland are inextricably linked. If people don't like it or feel alienated by it then why support us?

They'd support us because we're supposed to be a club open to all. I think that the social and charitable aspects of our inception have more to do with the Irish link than any political link to Ireland.

Id put my house on more people being alienated with the way the club is being run, and the fact that we are being told what to sing.

I dunno what planet your on if you think Celtic fans would be alienated by Irish folk songs. If there are any, then they should start of a Celtic song instead.

I dunno what Celtic support your in or what Celtic support you have stood beside at games. But never in my life have i came across people who have a problem with Irish folk songs, it must be an internet thing.

Other than the poppy situation, what problems do you have with the way the club is being run?

There are definitely a number of Celtic fans who feel uncomfortable or alienated with the singing of rebel songs at Celtic Park. You hear the rebel songs more at away games but I look around and I still see a lot of people who don't join in the singing of rebel songs. I don't have a problem with the songs myself, I just don't sing them and I don't think Parkhead is the place to do it.

Originally Posted by Ghod

Yes were a club open to all, including the Irish diaspora in Scotland and Irish Celtic fans. The majority of folk would be from the Irish diaspora, that is why we have always sung these songs. Because the majority of people at games want to sing them.

If the majority of fans want to sing them, then why aren't the majority actually singing them?

At the end of the day we have always sung rebel songs, the Irish diaspora in Scotland display their Irish roots at Celtic games throught flags and songs and these songs that we have sung for years and years reflect the attitude of the majority of our support towards rebel songs. Its always been that way, Celtic is a beacon of Irish nationalism whether you like it our not.

Celtic is a beacon of charity, faith and a bridge of the Irish and Scottish cultures. Not Irish nationalism. The name Celtic was chosen to unite, not divide us.

Originally Posted by Minty

If the majority of fans want to sing them, then why aren't the majority actually singing them?

Celtic is a beacon of charity, faith and a bridge of the Irish and Scottish cultures. Not Irish nationalism. The name Celtic was chosen to unite, not divide us.

Get scottish rebel songs on the go then, flower of Scotland is a rebel song, i wouldn't feel alienated if that was being sung, in fact id join in. The Irish culture is more predominant in our support than displays of Scottish nationalism.

Would you put any money in if there was a collection on the go for humanatarian aid for the people of teh gaza strip?

Do you propose we stop singing Irish songs?

I sing rebel songs whenever I go away with celtic and agree with the cause that the songs sing of But why sing the songs at that moment in falkirk? attention seeking that's why.
(because it's not like we sing them all year round or anything)

Seems to me that the hardcore bunch who only use the club as a political vehicle have only suceeded in bringing attention to the fact that they are infact mindless morons .

Them all! No-one sings anyway, exept those who sing the rebs!

Originally Posted by celtic daft

I sing rebel songs whenever I go away with celtic and agree with the cause that the songs sing of But why sing the songs at that moment in falkirk? attention seeking that's why.
(because it's not like we sing them all year round or anything)

Seems to me that the hardcore bunch who only use the club as a political vehicle have only suceeded in bringing attention to the fact that they are infact mindless morons .

Like you are doing on this thread.

To highlight the murder of a young man murdered by the British army, how the fuck is that political? Aiden McAnespie is not a rebel song, nor does the Falkirk game have anything to do with this thread.

You sing the rebs and agree with the sentiments expressed in the songs, then put your money where our mouth is instead of just singing them for the sake of it. You sing songs of Irish freedom yet when people refuse to commemorate the people who manned the barrier of freedom in Ireland and murdered many Celtic fans you call them morons and scum. Hypocrite...

The only mindless moron on this thread is you, you are happy to honour the black watch and the black and tans but sing the rebs. What a fucking idiot.

You have Celtic - St Pauli under your name, you sing the rebs, but think there are people who use the club as a "political vehicle" and they are mindless idiots. Fuck sake, honestly you could not make this up, this is comedy gold.

Originally Posted by Ghod

Get scottish rebel songs on the go then, flower of Scotland is a rebel song, i wouldn't feel alienated if that was being sung, in fact id join in. The Irish culture is more predominant in our support than displays of Scottish nationalism.

Would you put any money in if there was a collection on the go for humanatarian aid for the people of teh gaza strip?

Do you propose we stop singing Irish songs?

Yes, I'd put money in the tin.

No.

none! sing celtic songs at parkhead! after all celtic are a football team. i love the rebel tunes too! but there is a time and place for that type of songs.

Originally Posted by Ghod

Do you have an opinion on the fields of Athenry LTPS etc being sung at games?

not what i meant! the feilds sean south,let the people sing! no problem! im talking about ones that have the ira mentioned in them! not at football for me! thats all.