Thread: Peter Martin: Mowbray won't be manager next season

Originally Posted by Bhoys Dont Cry

Hope to fuck this is true. It's such a shame because I honestly thought Mogga was the man to get us to the next level. He had it all- Celtic man, free flowing attacking football... Just a shame he is tactically inept. Worse Celtic manager in our history.

What a pile of shite.

Originally Posted by keano

way i see it is the team didnt need ripped apart like this muppet did , we needed 4 players at the start of the season , mark janko is a 30 goal a year striker who would have formed a great partnership with mcdonald ,would have cost us 5 million , mowbray spent almost 4 on fortune and it was obvious caldwell was off so there u have the money for janko right there between those 2 , samaras should have been sold , along with the likes of flood killen donati naylor , throw in wilson and maloney who spend more time in the rosshall waiting room than they do on the actual pitch , that lot would have got us money to buy a decent centre back and possibly a left back , mulgrew would do a job for us , so would zander diamond or mark reynolds both decent enough for the league we play in.

Robson shouldnt have been sold and possibly scott brown could have been sacrificed when spurs were talking about a 6/8 million offer that would have rebuilt the midfield and added some players with quality to fill the squad. that was the basics we needed before the season started.

When this muppet is sacked we will still need a centre back , a left back a decent midfield player and a 20+ goal a season striker , when the 4 loan players go at the end of the season so all in all , mowbray has actually cost us an entire year of rebuilding with his fucking cluelessness

You are only seeing what you want to see here.

The team did need ripped apart. They had been shocking for 2 years prior to TM coming in. Then TM decided to give them all opportunities to earn a place in the side, when he could have done his firesale in the sumer. But those players all let him down. Everyone who left deserved to go, none more so than McDonald and Caldwell.

There is no way of proving Janko would have done better than Fortune. MAF has had a great first seasn in my mind. If it was not for injury than he would be on at least 15 goals. The 11 that he has is a great return, especially if you consider Henrik only got 16, or there abouts, in his first season.

Samaras would have been sold by now if we could have attracted a bidder. The fact is we will be lucky to get bids of £500,000 for his services. And with regards to Maloney, you cannot sell injured players.

Mulgrew is a muppet. Being able to hit a free kick is not enough to be a Celtic player. Diamond is not good enough, but I might be interested in Reynolds.

Scott Brown looked like he was going to play an integral role in TM's side. Again TM has been unlucky to see him out injured. There is no way I would have considered selling him in the summer. And he has more than filled in for Robson since he has came back into the squad. I do agree though that perhaps Robson couldhave been kept. But in TM's favour, I'd say he sanctioned this deal on the hope of getting in funds to bring in a quality centre back but again PL pulled the rug from underneath a Celtic manager's feet.

Celtic are in a much better state than we were in the summer. TM should be commended for identifying guys like: Hartley, McManuas, Killen, Flood, McDonald and Caldwell as either not being good enough or for being such a bad influence that they are to the detriment of the club. Fortune is better than McDonald, N'Guemo is better than Hartley, Hooiveld is better than McManus, Kamara is better than Killen and Ki is better than Flood. It is undeniable that we now have a much better squad. And Ramas or St Ledger would have made one hellava a difference. We have got rid of most of the duds. If there is to be another manager soon, then he is inheriting a considerably better squad than the one TM walked into.

Now, I am not saying TM is not for the high jump. 1 more slip up and he should be for the off in my opinion. But some folk are going way over the top.

He has been unlucky with injuries to the squad, he has suffered refereeing that is in a word - corrupt and he has not really been backed by the board. There is alot more things going wrong for Celtic than TM. Despite all this, he should still be top of the league. All the missed chances and weak defending may just cost him his job but please spare me all this stuff about him being clueless because it is just not true.

Originally Posted by keano

CLUELESS is the word , look at the goals against tally for every team he has managed , you'll find this muppet wouldnt know a good defender if he bit him on the arse , this is a manager who's theory is , if we flood our team with strikers we must score , kevin keegan did the same and id sooner win 1-0 than lose 5-4 no matter how nice the football is , mowbray is the WORST manager in our history and that includes barnes and macari

Clueless is the word for whom?

TM identified St Ledger/Ramas and Hooiveld who could have formed a good partnership. So I would say he does know a defender, also considering he bumped those useless pricks McManus and Caldwell.

And I disagree that the theory you mention is in fact accurate. No way does he go along with this theory. It is a tabloid fabrication.

Originally Posted by keano

ps and when he does finally get sacked , i hope he gets a decent job in his management level in the fuckin conference league

This is surely hyperbole? He has proved himself at much higher levels than that.

Lol @ the people who said when McManus and Caldwell were here, "Aww get Heid to fuck he is shite" "Get McAnus out he is balls" etc etc. Then we sell them, and then people start to fucking moan about it. Also i think the left back we have now is a fine addition to the team and if we can keep him on we should do so. Mogga, like ive said many of times before, has brought us great attacking football but this does not mask the empty space at the back. Respect for what Mogga done in his day, and repect Mogga for what he has try to do at this club. When the day comes that Mowbray is no longer in charge then i wish him all the best for the future.

Originally Posted by keano

lol@tabloid fabrication , the english media must have crystal balls to have known he would be our next manager when they called him niave and clueless too , but thats right the world is against us

the way our defence plays the referees dont need to be bias against us in fact we could play without a referee and it would make no difference

Well if you really think that, maybe your the one who is clueless. Look at the last Old F**m and tell me how well you think the ref performed that game. and thats just one game of many

Originally Posted by keano

lol@tabloid fabrication , the english media must have crystal balls to have known he would be our next manager when they called him niave and clueless too , but thats right the world is against us

the way our defence plays the referees dont need to be bias against us in fact we could play without a referee and it would make no difference

Aye, the lols are on you here mate.

It is a Scottish media fabrication. The English may have called him naive, fair enough. But you were banging on about this alleged theory of 'flooding the midfield with strikers and scoring more than the opposition.' No manager would have this theory. TM just cannot account for the shocking defending and silly errors we have witnessed this season.

We have been cheated out of a 15 point swing in our favour. You are the only Tim I have come across who is in denial here. Yes we should be top even without these decisions, but they have played as integral a role towards our fortunes as has the shoddy defending.

Originally Posted by keano

maybe if mowbray knew how to set up a defence , the huns wouldnt have scored within 3 mins from the only corner they got in the entire game , or maybe if KI hadnt dived in the final minute , hibs wouldnt have 2-1 maybe if we could have defended we wouldnt have 2 lost goals to dundee untd and the last 3/4 mins at tannadice, or maybe if we could defend against a sheep team that took 4 of us but within 72 hours went out the scottish cup without scoring against a 1st division part time defence.


oh wait its the referees that did all this not OUR manager and the way he sets up and motivates the team on the park or maybe they dont play to his instructions

We were done out of two penalties and two sending offs at Shitebox in October. *Cheated of at least a point.

At Falkirk, we scored a last minute winner and the referee conspired to rule it offside. *Cheated out of two points.

We were robbed of a legitimate goal and another sending off at the next derby game at Paradise in January. *Cheated out of two more points.

We are denied a last minute, stonewall, penalty against Falkirk. * Cheated out of 2 points.

Ki was fucking fouled, ffs. The wholse stadium went berserk at Brines' decision to ignore it and allow Hibs to counter and get the winner. It was less than 50 yards from my seat and I am positive it was a foul. *Cheated out of at least 1 point.

Motherwell were denied a legitimate goal which would have secured them a victory against the Huns. And the Huns went on to claw back a point. *Cheated out of another 2 points.

Kris Boyd is allowed to get away with an elbow last week, McCulloch has also gotten away with a similar elbow earlier in the season. *They collect more points which they may not have earned with 10 men.

Aberdeen and loads of other points have been flung away. I have said this all along, despite your effort to misquote me above. But it is only Huns who are denying the significance of the refereeing decisions this year. Your attitude and other like you just lets them get away with it.